Why is Imam Ali Connected to All the Sufi Tariqas?

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1. Those who think Shia are smarter than ahl Sunna. To me they are the same! I feel sorry for both and the level of ignorance and violence that plagued our Umma. Can you please explain to me did any Imam I am talking here about the 12 Imam's (as). Did they tell the Shia to cut their skin and bleed or perform tatrib or collective flagelation and suffering to mourn the loss of sayida shuhada'il janna Imamayn Alhassan wal Hussain (as) during the sad day of Ashura? Can't we just mourn our huge loss without blood? Ya Ummatan dahikat min jahlihal umamo!
2. Merciful Justice you are neither merciful nor just. How dare you praise the Munaafiq Muawiyya who refused to give ba'ya to Imam Ali (as) and was the main reason our Ummah is still divided for the last 1500 years; the man who started wars against Imam Ali (as) and killed Sahabil jaleel Ammar Ibn Yasir and poisoned Imam Al Hassan (as) and killed Um Al mu'mineen Aicha (ra) and instructed his son to kill Jaafar Ibn Abi Bakr and Imam Al Hussain among 70 others ??? this is mind boggling??? when are the wahabis like you are going to stop deceiving our Ummah with their Tadlees business. -Can you and your deceitful masters deny the hadith Sahih where prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: Wayha Ammar taqtulohol fi'al baghia" Oh bad news for Ammar he will be killed by the devious party. -Can you deny that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) ordered the killing of any leader that refuses to give ba'ya to the chosen khalifa? in this case Muawiya should 've been executed for his crimes against the Muslim Ummah. Are you now going to insult Imam Bukhari too ? because these ahaadith are in both Bukhari and Muslim. You are the one along with your wahabi masters who dug a ditch for yourself and is spiritually dead not me. I hope your masters petro dollars are depleted one day so that the Wahabi lies reach a dead end.
3. ...because Sufism it is the road and Ali had accepted the shejkhtan of prophet after he passed to the other life and shejkhtan fought them all filling this space full of shejkhtans;bidah and meeting places.
4. Ya'll(shias and sunnis) need to stand up at night and pray for guidance. This action will give us an answer to our unity. But keep on rollin that tongue of yours, the debate will never end because it hasn't been taken to its solver.
5. Thank you.
6. Finally I have heard a catorgoric answer to my question; The worst crime in our modern Jails is to sexually rape of molest a child. Mohammed molested Aisha from 6 & raped her at nine. He is therefore evil not holly, not in the slightest. Just the thought of if makes me shudder.
7. The day some Shia scholars stop insulting the Shaikhan and Aicha (RAA) you will then see millions of Sunni Muslims becoming Shia. We Muslims must ignore Nawasib Al Wahhabia and Rawafid Shia. I strongly believe Shia Zaidia are the only ones who have the best fiqh because if a Hadith does not have a SANAD they throw it in the garbage bin. We the Sunnis and the Shia Imamia accept tons of false Ahaadith from Al Kaafi and Imam Bukhari and Muslim not to even mention the other 4 books. I personally did not know that King Idriss Ibn  Ali (as) who happen to be my first ancestor who settled in Morocco and became its first King and Amir Al Mu'mineen was Shia Zaidi until last year. I am currently studying Shia Zaidia and plan to become Shia Zaidi insha Allah once I master the Fiqh because I am tired of the lies that both Ahl Sunna wal Jamaa' and Shia Imamia.
8. SALAM ALAIKUM ALL. I AM GOING TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD. OUR UMMAH NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TRUTH. WE MUST ABANDON OUR SECTARIAN ATTITUDES AND UNITE ASAP AS ALLAH (SWT) COMMANDS US TO UNITE BUT THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF OUR SCHOLARS AND GOVERNMENTS ARE OPEN TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH. SCHOLARS SHIA AND SUNNI MUST STOP LYING TO THE MUSLIM LAYMEN TO PLEASE THE PALACE AND THE TYRANTS THAT INHERITED THEIR BRUTALITY AND OPPRESSION FROM THE AMAWI, ABBASSI, SAFAWI AND OTTOMAN TYRANTS! STOP ACCEPTING FORGED AHAADITH AND STOP ABROGATING ALLAH'S WORD WITH FALSE AHAADITH. TELL THE TRUTH YOU KNOW THERE ARE 100'S OF FALSE AHADITH DISGUISED AS AUTHENTIC AHAADITH IN AL KUTUB SITTA (6 BOOKS OF AHAADITH). YOU WILL BE PUNISHED BY ALLAH (SWT) IN THE HEREAFTER FOR DISHONESTY AND SLEEPING WITH THE DEVIL FOR MATERIAL GAINS. YOU ARE WORRIED THAT IF YOU EXPOSE THE SINS OF SOME SAHABA AND TABIEEN, MUSLIMS WILL ABANDON THEIR FAITH. NOT AT ALL, WE ARE ALL UNITED IN OUR BELIEF IN THE 6 FOUNDATIONS OF FAITH. TELL THE TRUTH AND ALLAH (SWT) WILL PRESERVE THE FAITH. KEEP HIDING THE FACTS AND THE MUSLIM WORLD WILL REMAIN THE LAUGHING STOCK OF ALL NATIONS. ANY HONEST EXPERT WILL TELL YOU POINT BLANK THAT THE MUSLIM TRAIN DEVIATED FROM ITS STRAIGHT TRACKS ON THE DAY OF THE SAQIFA AND THE MUSLIM GOVERNANCE STARTED TO CRUMBLE BIT BY BIT FROM THAT DAY ONWARD UNTIL IT TOTALLY LOST ITS PATH IN 1925. WE MUST PUT A MORATORIUM ON SHARIA HUDOOD UNTIL WE SORT OUT THE LIES FROM THE TRUTH.
9. Br Doyour Wahhabia are Sunni Muslims they are our own and the Zionists love them for the damage they do to Islam. Shia Imamia's beliefs are not as bad as our Sunnis but still erroneous too with their belief in Isma, Bada' wa Rij'a and Ghaybatul Imam and now Wilayat Alfaqih. The Muslims that are truly in the middle are Shia Zaidia!!! They follow the Quran and only accept a Hadith if its Isnad is Sahih.
10. +Doyour ownthing salamo alaikum Doyour yes indeed Shia Imamia exaggerate the facts but we Sunnis put make up on ugly crimes. For instance we Sunnis claim that Muawiyya (Alaqeet Ibnu Laqeet) who was truly a MUNAFIQ was a mujtahid who to us committed no sins in refusing to give baya' to Imam Ali (AS). What a joke! Since the death of Imam Ali Ahl Sunna wal Jama' catholic clergy look alike was formed against Ahlul Bayt by Muawiya himself. Do we Sunnis have a brain that functions when we call Muawiya Mujtahid after he disobeyed the legitimate khalifa Imam Ali (as) or after he poisoned his son Al Hassan (AS) to death who is the grand son of prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and after he passed on murderous instructions to his son Yazid (Al Mal'oon) to murder Imam Al Hussain (AS)  the younger brother if he rebels against Yazid's overt Fisq. Wake up, Imam Al Hussain is also the grand son of Mohammad (pbuh)? and it doesn't end there Muawiya (Al Mal'oon) also killed Jaafar ibn Abi Bakr (RA) and his sister, Um Al mumineen Ayesha (RA) prophet Mohammad's wife (pbuh). We are the joke of other nations when we Sunnis rise up in arms to kill non Muslims that insult our prophet  (pbuh) but we call the Munafiqeen Muawiya and his son Yazid and add Marwan to the list who actually did not just insult but killed his family Ahlul Bayt are just Mujtahidoon! This is because our Catholic clergy like Salafis have lied to us and said that all the sahaba are role models whomever you chose is a good guide for you in a false hadith. This includes Sahabi Abdullah Bnu Ubay Bnu Salool (the head of Munafiqeen in Madinah who built Masjid Dirar to destroy Islam). This Munafiq was a sahabi who gave Baya to Rasolillah (pbuh) in Bayat Alaqabah is your role model ??? We are indeed the laughing stock of other nations wala hawla wala quwata illa billah!
11. The Wahabis and Shia Al Kamilia lied to us: Madhahib Al Islam are 6 not 4. Here they are Jaafaria Imamia - Zaidia - Malikia- Shafiia- Hanafia and "Hanbalia" . Most Muslims scholars don't consider Ahmad Ibn Hanbal the founder of Salafism from which Wahabism emerged in 1800's to be an Imam but will add him out of respect anyway because political Islam of the Amawis and Abbasid said so. Aljunaid was an Imam so was Imam Al Awzai among others who the Muslims palace did not like to elevate their status for political reason. The suffering of Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa testify to the brutality of the Amawi and Abbassi Toghat (Tyrants). Our Muslim credo scholars came from Ashaaria, Tahawia, Maturidia, Mu'tazila, Shia and Sufia and we love them and respect them all! The politics of intolerance and exclusion is doomed to fail! They can lie by omission all they want but the Truth always come out and prevails one way or another!
12. Salamo alaikum, Sheikh Abdul Hakim, May Allah bless you. We Muslims Sunnis and Shia should not insult the sahabal Kiraam except for those who clearly deserve it like Taghut Muawiyya Taleeq bnu Taleeq Abu Sufian for not giving bay'a to Imam Ali (as) the best khalifa ever to walk on earth and for poisoning his son Al Hassan (as) and for killing Jaafar Ibnu Abi Bakr Asideeq (raa) and for killing Ayesha Ummul Mu'mineen (raa) and you can also insult the drunkard Alaqeeto bnu Laqeet (la'anaho Allaho) Yazid Bnu Muawiya who killed the grandson of prophet Mohammad (pbuh) Al Hussain (as) and 70 of his family members and followers in Karbala'. Add to the list Alwazagh, Marwan wal Iaadu Billah!
13. the Prophet Muhammad said in sahih mutawatir hadith in bukhari that has been related by 20 different Sahara that "ammaar ibn yaasir will be killed by the unjust army (meaning the army of muawia) . "
    so with that said one can say about muawia that he was unjust for fighting Ali and committed a major sin. unlike the Shia who say he's kafir , we ahlul Sunnah believe he died in Islam and will enter jennah and Allah will forgive him for this sin. Inshallah Amin.
    
    wahhabiz all the way to the extreme left. Shia all the way to the extreme right and ahlul Sunnah always in the middle.
14. Assalam alaikum from a moslem who is following and living according to qur'an and also following the way which prophet Muhammad Mustafa s.a.v.ordered. There is no such words in qur'an like sunni or shia or whatever they call . but follow Hanafiy Islamic schools of jurisprudence(fiqh) is more wonderful than any others. This is my personal opinion.
15. I am a Sunni.Interestingly some Shia narrations call Sufis the enemies of Ahlulbayt(ra).
16. Why is it that we have to fight as shia and sunnis til the end of time, that is why we have lost the true peaceful islam today, respect one another and don't call each other kufar. This dispute is killing us all over the world, literally.
17. Since when do dreams hold any sort of authority or proof? His analysis and conclusion would be appropriate if the dream was true, or can be proven as such - which is impossible. It is not about assigning blame to historical figures which I agree with, but one cannot go around absolving individuals of the responsibility of being good role models for the ummah based on "dreams". If all the sahabah were truly as great as many say they were, and act as guides for us to follow, then surely they would have had the foresight to at least realize that shed each others blood is wrong. It's the total lack of accountability attached to the personas of these individuals which are viewed as guides by many muslims today and has allowed certain groups in the middle East to cause carnage, and then justify it by claiming their intention was in the right place, x, y, z sahabah did this as well and they were forgiven or worse justified in their intention. It solves no problems at all, rather it is an excuse.
18. Sufism and Shiaism.
    Before proceeding we must know the following statements of the major Rafidees concerning the link between Sufism and the Shi'a: ----------Muhammad Hussain Tabtabaee (a Shi'ite) writes in "Shi'a" (a book explaining the creed of Rafidee Shi'a):
    ((In fact in his major work, the Jami' al-asrar, Amuli's main intention is to show that real Sufism and Shi'ism are the same)) (p.14) --------------In fact, Tabtabaee was also a mureed of a Sufi called Mirza Ali Qadi who taught him Fusus al Hikam of Ibn Arabee (see p.23).
    ((And the Spiritual Pole (qutb) whose existence at all times is considered necessary by all the Sufis - correlate with the Shi'ite conception of the Imam)), (p.114)
19. I am not for disperse of Islam and confusion among Muslim. but the dream he mentioned is unauthentic. logically it tell us, it has no rationality behind it. in fact, talking about Sahaba, is the most crucial aspect of a modern Muslim. why? because name one Islamic country where Shia-Sunah conflict has not been experienced. I am not asking Shia-Suni argument here, all i am saying is, Shia and Sunnah think and reflect on history. we kill each other, like wild animal in Africa, yet this is all because we did not learned our lesson from history! we did not review Muaweya and Ali fight, if we have reviewed and learned today we would not have witnessed all these bloodshed. The dream of that sod who ever he was is a joke.. he must had full belly and a big dinner.