When Did Mythology Become Religion? w/ John K. Lundwall
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John K. Lundwall received his BA in English Literature from Brigham Young University, and his MA and PhD in Mythological Studies from Pacifica Graduate Institute in Carpenteria, California. Dr. Lundwall has presented numerous lectures at symposiums, conferences, and public classes in myth studies, and has served as an editor for several academic publications. He specializes in the connections between oral cosmology, myth, and cultus. His book “Mythos and Cosmos: Mind and Meaning in the Oral Age” reexamines ancient myth through the template of oral thinking and oral cosmology. Contradicting decades of assumptions about the purpose and function of ancient mythology, Lundwall defines myth as "the oral imprinting press of pre-literate peoples" and shows that myth belongs to a complex and rational method of information transmission amongst oral peoples. During this interview John shares his research into the ancient myths, traditions, and rituals. He explains what we know about the earliest forms or religious writings and how they still showcase their oral roots. If you ever wondered about how ancient oral religions compare to what we deem as modern day religions, don't miss this interview! If you like our videos please support our Patreon: http://tinyurl.com/ofa37jg Become an official Mythicist Milwaukee member: http://tinyurl.com/nkjhyth Join our meet-up for some great local and social events: http://tinyurl.com/pz588wu
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I still believe in the same concept of the United States from 200 years ago. That doesn't make me strange or odd. As such I find this man's phrasing suspect, and I'm not speaking as an atheist, but just as a man.
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What an excellent channel. Open-minded skepticism at its finest - on some of the most important issues which have yet to be fully understood and which are certainly more difficult to face head-on.
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seems like evrything created by man is bad for us
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As an Exmo I am curious how this will go.
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I was frustrated with this video since I was just listening without knowing anything about Lundwall. When he disclosed he was a believing Mormon, I wanted the interviewers to get him to explain his beliefs in a 19th century con man with a story about receiving golden tablets from an angel who has discussions with a white salamander, proposes preposterous stories about Jesus appearing in Missouri, and sets up a cult that embraces a racism so pervasive that blacks were not considered humans well into the 20th century .
Someone with such gullibility to believe idiotic nonsense has little to offer in the way of enlightenment or education to reason based thinkers, unless one has an affinity for stories filtered through the world view unconstrained by reason and accepting of magic. This is an important point since the theme of this video is about oral history (and oral history of long dead languages at that, so how does one really know was being said), and one is depending on the interpretations of those histories by someone who finds magic a plausible explanation for world events (re: Jesus in Missouri, talking salamanders, and an angel who's name is ironically symmetric with moron).
But that is just me being a leftest fundamentalist that thinks evidence and reason are vastly superior to magical thinking. -
It is a fundamental error to say that because we don't have a word for something, we don't have a concept of it. It seems to me this would imply that words precede concepts, which I don't think is possible.
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Not impressed. There are words for the state of religious belief in the ancient world, superstitio, and religio are two of them. And in his book Mythos and Cosmos, his thesis is suspiciously close to the same ideas and thesis found in Temple and Cosmos by Hugh Nibley.
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excellent interview. Looks like we are all more alike than we like to think.
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