What the Bible Got Wrong: A Flat Earth Part 4 (Conclusion)
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In this series, we examine the ancient Hebrew cosmology of a flat earth and the apologetic defenses some Christians use to argue that the Bible, under divine inspiration, did not get this particular observation wrong.
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May I say that I love you. Not in a gay way. Not that there is anything wrong with that. All joking aside. Thank you for this video. I'm a skeptical atheist myself, but all through my teen years I was repeatedly taught about this overwhelming concept of "Hell". Let's just say I had many sleepless nights over this. I still have this irrational fear of hell, even though I know it's all bullshit. I have OCD, and an acute case of PDSD over this fear. It fucking sucks. I hate the bible and what it has done to so many people.
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Absolutely loved this series!
Why?
Because the earth is stationary and flat.
The Bible and Apocrypha are true. God says: Let there be an expanse to separate the waters above from the waters below. -
If the bible says in one spot the earth hangs on nothing and in another that it sits on pillars, the bible is NOT inerrant. This means it could not have been authored by a perfect process by an all-knowing being. This brings into question the ENTIRE bible. You cannot trust ANYTHING.
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We need to call a spade a spade. We try not to insult the apologist but I have to. They must be STUPID. STUPID is as stupid does. They can sound intelligent and not be intelligent. Look at Hitler. He was a remarkably stupid fool. Destroying a nation and killing millions is a very stupid thing to do. I'm sure he thought he was the smartest, best thing to ever be born but in reality, he is one of the most hated things ever born and I call that being stupid. The apologist is STUPID.
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Excellently researched video series. I absolutely agree with you that Christian apologist are ever grasping at a straws trying to explain Gods word to the world. And you have clearly silenced any and all of their futile attempts at doing so, with vast amounts of language data. It is crystal clear that all the ancients believed the earth was some sort of a flat disk with a dome /firmament covering it. And that the sun, moon, and stars rotate over us all. Any plain reading of the bible clearly demonstrates that is it's intended depiction of our world.
So the question then simply becomes, who do you believe? Gods word, aka the bible or the word of "modern science"? Gods word is much older with no eye witnesses to what actually happened. But modern science on the other hand, has nothing but un provable theories, and endless conjecture as to how the world came into being. While some of the mathematics may work. Much of it simply does not, and needs more, and more theory and conjecture to keep it even remotely believable.
For me, the choice is simple. I trust Gods word. I believe it to be literally true, and trust scripture to interpret scripture. Our God is and always has been. Who are we to imagine we know more than our Creator? Come on people, seriously? -
Sorry but I watched the video and you took the quoted scriptures out of context. Also the ancient Hebrews absolutely utilized science! This is apparent in their way of life (astronomy) down to their architecture. To deny the Hebrews used science is like denying the Egyptians used science and math to build the pyramids.
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Produce in 2011.... Lets fast forward to 2015... Flat Earther are exploding. The earth is FLAT, the BIBLE has proven so through scriptures and everyone is waking up to the NAZI NASA Project Paper Clip fake round spherical ball earth. Wake UP!!!
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The bible`s authors/editors CLAIM it to be the inerrant word of god.
Conveniently, exclusively, Revealed only to them by that god.
The bible or the qur`an, says it is the word of god , perfect, infalible etc.
IT IS NOT. it is the work of Charlatans, Mohammad being the obvious example.
How many times do we have to demonstrate this Scripture to be false?
IT IS CLEARLY FABRICATED, FRAUDULENTLY, BY MEN. poorly educated lying men. -
God use man to write the bible to prove that it is true. There is no way that all these men could have written what they did and having it come to life as it does unless God inspired it. If the ends of the earth are the four corner's than there are ends. If you put a square in the middle if the earth than you will get the ends of it. God wrote the bible on such a way that the people of GOD would discover truth when you searched for it through CHRIST. I understand your point of view. God said knowledge would increase.
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I am with you even unto the end of the earth could mean the destruction's of it. Which is coming very soon.
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The Holy Qur'an says that the earth has been made egg shaped, specially referring to the egg of an ostrich, which is geo-spherical. Also, the Holy Qur'an says that the earth and heaven have got no pillars. Further, the Holy Qur'an says that the Sun, the Moon and the Earth are rotating and revolving.
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nteresting thing to note which I just remembered during the whole "sides" tangent - only flat objects can have sides. 3-dimensional objects have faces. But that's just me using modern math talk.
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"I'll hunt you to the ends of the earth! Do you hear me Mal'ganis? To the ends of the earth!"
While I agree completely that the biblical authors probably believed in a flat, dome-covered earth, I wouldn't agree that the use of that phrase is necessarily evidence of it by itself. Sometimes a common phrase or expression may be used that doesn't mean exactly what it says. For example, the Hebrews, I've heard, often used "40" of something to mean "a lot of". Such as, they wandered "40 years" in the desert to mean "many years" instead of an exact number. -
Thanks for a great series man, spoken with eloquence and without outright "sneering" condemnation of this ancient book. Lovely music and nice attitude....
I am an advocate of the Spherical Earth model ( as anyone who has seen a sunset and sunrise is) and can see the evidence for its rotundity in NASA pictures, if not immediately with my own senses.
As Brian Cox recently exclaimed on his TV show, it was only after the Apollo missions produced the Blue Marble picture, that we knew for sure that the Earth was in fact a sphere.
Now thanks to that Picture, the quite understandable flat earth speculation, should be placed firmly to bed.
Not so long ago, i deliberately went out of my way to look at the flat earth model in order to understand the kind of mind that could even conceive of such an idea in this scientifically enlightened time and was surprised to find that these believers in this archaic theory, actually had some science to attempt to back up their theory.
Absurdly, I felt some empathy toward some of the more intelligent flat earth theorists, after observing with my own senses, that water defied the ability to sit upon a curve in my own experiments, as it does so well on the larger earth itself and that people and water could seemingly hang upside down beneath me and seem to their own senses to be the right way up.
However I quickly broke the insidious flat earth spell, by viewing again the NASA Pictures from space, coupled with the understanding that gravity pulls or pushes everything to the earth and can also work on your perception, to make things seem the right way up, when you think they are upside down below you, whilst stood, on a physical planet, in a physical universe and subject to the same laws of physics as every other solid substance in the known Universe.
Please let us not return to the medieval physics and pure fantasy of flat earth and the geocentric model, as a plethora of new flat earth advocates, trusting there all to precarious human senses and reason, would have us do.
Rather let us keep pushing forward in the real universe of modern physics, where planets and stars, thrust forth from an insouciant big bang event, spinning like clockwork in an infinite, expanding universe, managing with great precision to work in perfect unison and order, easily observed from earth and telescope, describe nothing less, than what our modern theoretical physics tells us.
Thanks again for the best explanation on YouTube that the bible does indeed profess a literal flat earth model (which should please the true non church going literal believers of the good book) and definitely does not espouse a spherical construction, as most Christian apologists today, exalt from the rooftops, to impress their science friends and to gain credibility amidst the more enlightened Heliocentric brigade.
Thousands of educated scientists today Know the earth is a sphere!
Thousands of ignorant goat herders yesterday Knew the earth was flat....... -
The Bible Skeptic, you keep such a level head through debunking much of the Bible and apologists using such a document. It's something I think is rare, as one can get easily annoyed by the twisted logic apologists use. It's also something that I argue is beneficial as it reduces the apologists sense of being attacked.
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Egyptians did not view the earth as flat that is totally wrong. Ever since the predynastic era and before which predates the creation myth of the bible in genesis 1:1 they (Egyptians) saw the earth as a sphere not at the center of the universe. You should study kemet and its scriptures it will tell you the opposite. The Greeks also saw the earth before Aristotle long before thousands of years that the earth was a sphere as well did the other Europeans saw the earth as round and old way billions to millions of years created by Mother Goddess. Norse and Hindus also I say say it (earth) correctly as a sphere. But the Jews and Canaanites and mesopotamians/sumerians saw it as flat. Bible did get it all wrong and is false and a lie not God inspired after as it always was. Only the book of the dead is divinely inspired.
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.This is just nit-picking for excuses to nullify the whole Bible.. God laid the foundations of the earth and measured it...maybe he sees it as a flat map projection....of course the early writers were not told it was round..that would be absolute proof of God..WHICH HE DOES NOT GIVE AS YET........jpI have modern proof of God so who cares what free-willers think....jp
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so the earth really is flat! thanks for the video
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This verse says that more was known then about what was in the sky.
Gen 37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
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