Vortex Solar System: "New Paradigm", or "Same, Old, Same-Old"?
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DjSadhu *really* doesn't want people to see what he originally said about his work! See this link: https://plus.google.com/118362508845435062812/posts/afEba8mXJKF . This video documents that DjSadhu has changed his story about what his first video was intended to show, and blames astronomer Phil Plait for causing the "confusion" surrounding it. *Update, 7 March 2015.* DjSadhu boasted over 2 years ago that he could demonstrate that the planets trail behind the Sun at all times, as in the Bhat model. However, he has never attempted to make that demonstration, and his newest video ( (http://youtu.be/mvgaxQGPg7I, uploaded 4 March 2015) shows that the Solar System as being "flat", a configuration that he had previously (when defending the Bhat model) claimed to be "impossible". DjSadhu's statement in the Description of his first video, contradicting his current claim (at 2:18 in this video) that his first video shows the planets in the same plane of the Sun: "This is a non-conventional view of our solar system that is different from the standard 'flat' diagrams." https://www.dropbox.com/s/68h8a0phtpvwbkc/DjSadhu%20Different%20from%20flat%20model.bmp?dl=0 Links, in order of appearance: Phil Plait's 4 March 2013 critique: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html DjSadhu's 5 March 2013 reply: http://www.djsadhu.com/research/im-a-dj-not-a-scientist-damnit/ DjSadhu's first video: "The helical model - our solar system is a vortex" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU 1932 article on Sun's motion: May, 1932 http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?db_key=AST&bibcode=1932ASPL....1..175A&letter=.&classic=YES&defaultprint=YES&whole_paper=YES&page=175&epage=175&send=Send+PDF&filetype=.pdf 1997 article on Sun's motion: http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q457.html 2005 article on Sun's motion: June 17, 2005 http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=507 2008 video on Sun's motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkWyM-M8o0c Conical Solar System diagram: Figure 87, on p. 127 of http://www.djsadhu.com/files/Helical Helix PDF format.pdf . DjSadhu's Google+ post of 24 September 2014: Thread on https://plus.google.com/104092571673097139119/posts/MAoGwhdkh28 . Apr. 16, 2009 http://scienceray.com/astronomy/does-heliocentrism-means-that-the-sun-is-stationary/ 18 June 2010 http://www.school-for-champions.com/astronomy/earth_motion.htm Aug 23, 2010 Science 360: 2012 Truth - Galactic Plane Alignment (Good, re: Sun's sinusoidal motion perpendicular to Galactic Plane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQUIOFmf8r0 Oct 24, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=G7CwbCEwT_c&NR=1 *** Internet Wayback screenshots of DjSadhu's comments on his first video: *** *Screen shot #1:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujv11h9uaxzcryz/Wayback%202.bmp?dl=0 *Screen shot #2:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujv11h9uaxzcryz/Wayback%202.bmp?dl=0 *Screen shot #3:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/j346rxfv9l91e1m/Wayback%203.bmp?dl=0 *Screen shot #4:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgoog995jnkmdlu/Wayback%204.bmp?dl=0 *Screen shot #5:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/zeaidewecvw7a0k/Wayback%205.bmp?dl=0 *Screen shot #6:* https://www.dropbox.com/s/yz734zz4tp8ylr2/Wayback%206.bmp?dl=0
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Hey man, you do the science too?
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Hello +Jeremy Thille and +Initiativisk. This video of mine may interest you. You may also like these links about the Sun's motion:
From 1997: How quickly does the Earth move through space?
http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q457.html
From 2003: Considering the motion of the Earth, the solar system, and the galaxy, how fast am I moving while lying in bed asleep?
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=507
I especially like this very fine piece of writing from 1932:
Our Journey through Space (It shows that astronomers knew the velocity and direction of the Sun's motion accurately 80+ years ago.)
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?db_key=AST&bibcode=1932ASPL....1..175A&letter=.&classic=YES&defaultprint=YES&whole_paper=YES&page=175&epage=175&send=Send+PDF&filetype=.pdf -
DjSadhu really doesn't want people to see what he originally said about his work! See this link: https://plus.google.com/118362508845435062812/posts/afEba8mXJKF .
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Good video...energy attracts matter , matter covers energy, and energy moves matter.
Energy is moving the sun in a spiral because all energy runs in a spiral.
Matter cannot move
Only energy moves, and when it does, it moves matter.
So try to think in terms of the energy moving...and not the matter..haha....I explain more on my videos ...thanks for the invite brother, very good work..:) -
After giving him (her?) two warnings, I have blocked Shine Om for responding to this video with unsubstantiated, hand-waving assertions and attempts to change the subject. I've deleted his posts, but screen shots documenting our exchanges are available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/y22dxbzoyb144kw/Shine%20Om.zip?dl=0.
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tongmaa, In answer to your first post, I gave you the warning that I quote at the end of this comment.. Since you have stated your intention to persist in your behavior, I have blocked you. Screenshots documenting our exchange are available at https://www.dropbox.com/s/efhxp3v3kccwcyj/tongmaa.zip?dl=0.
The warning you were given:
As the terms for commenting (4:08) stated clearly, the issue under discussion in this video is whether DjSadhu, sometime after Plait's column of 5 March 2013, changed his (Dj's) story about what the first "Vortex" video was meant to show. As the Terms also point out, resolving that issue is a matter of documentary evidence, not hand-waving claims and unsubstantiated assertions. The Terms noted that commenters who resort to such tactics, or attempt to change the subject, will be blocked after one warning.
This is your warning. So, in your next post, limit your comments to the issue under discussion, and provide documentary evidence that responds to that which I have presented. -
Well definitely we are not standing in same place. Everything moves .. The funny thing is we are too small to see whats really happening. And is not about our solar system is about the whole universe is moving somewhere.
And what I saw and hear we have a black hole in the center of our galaxy .. all the stars and planets will fall INside eventually at some point. -
Hello +Donkey K0ng, I saw your question on the "Vortex Solar System" video, regarding the "correct" value of the Sun's velocity. You'll find the answers here in these links, which I think you'll also find enjoyable:
From 1997: How quickly does the Earth move through space?
http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q457.html
From 2003: Considering the motion of the Earth, the solar system, and the galaxy, how fast am I moving while lying in bed asleep?
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=507
I especially like this very fine piece of writing from 1932:
Our Journey through Space
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?db_key=AST&bibcode=1932ASPL....1..175A&letter=.&classic=YES&defaultprint=YES&whole_paper=YES&page=175&epage=175&send=Send+PDF&filetype=.pdf
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