Trekspertise - Gays, Lesbians & Star Trek
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Star Trek has tackled many social issues, real and imaginary, but just how does the Franchise handle matters relating to gays and lesbians? This video chronicles the extent of that conversation. Be sure to check out my personal YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/kylesullivan Support Trekspertise on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/trekspertise Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/neoteotihuacan This episode is made possible by the awesome James Neumann and the other magnificent supporters over on Patreon. They make this whole thing possible. Cheers Patreon supporters, and thank you! Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. That being said, STAR TREK and all related marks, logos and characters are owned by CBS Studios Inc. Trekspertise, the website, the promotion thereof and/or any exhibition of material created by Trekspertise are not endorsed or sponsored by or affiliated with CBS/Paramount Pictures or the STAR TREK franchise. Video The Outcast, TNG, 1992 Balance Of Terror, TOS, 1966 Martin Luther King Jr.’s Mountaintop Speech: http://bit.ly/PszEWt Selma - Montgomery March, Stefan Sharff: http://bit.ly/16Gt5IL Friendship One, VOY, 2001 Family, TNG, 1990 Rupture, DS9, 1996 Musselroe Wind Farm: The Full Story, Hydro Tasmania, 2013: http://bit.ly/1geQi8K Sabrina, 1995 His Way, DS9, 1998 Star Trek Into Darkness, 2013 Plato’s Stepchildren, TOS, 1968 S.E. Cupp Tears Up, Hammers GOP on Same-Sex Marriage, CNN, 2015: http://bit.ly/1Nkc5a9 US 21st Country to Allow Same-sex Marriage Nationwide, CNN, 2015: http://bit.ly/1ET4CzN The Moment After US Supreme Court Same-Sex Marriage Decision, BBC, 2015: http://bit.ly/1LLazxa CNN Interview, Chris Cuomo and Roy Moore, CNN, 2015: http://bit.ly/1Nuo20D Giraffe, footage shot by video author, 2015 Ghost Rookeries: Climate Change And The Adelie Penguin, EOWilsonBiodiversity YouTube Channel, 2013: http://bit.ly/1LwrT7n US Flag, shot by video author, 2015 Gay Marriage: Ireland’s Big Message For Equality, BBC, 2015: http://bit.ly/1M9zjAv Wink Of An Eye, TOS, 1968 The Offspring, TNG, 1990 Bound, ENT, 2005 Star Trek: The Motion Picture, 1979 Stigma, ENT, 2003 Broken Bow, ENT, 2001 Doctor’s Orders, ENT, 2004 Amok Time, TOS, 1967 The Perfect Mate, TNG, 1992 The Emperor's New Cloak, DS9, 1999 Profit and Lace, DS9, 1998 Turnabout Intruder, TOS, 1969 Body and Soul, VOY, 2000 The Host, TNG, 1991 Rejoined, DS9, 1995 Chimera, DS9, 1999 What You Leave Behind, DS9, 1999 The Outcast, TNG, 1992 Fusion, ENT, 2002 The Trouble With Tribbles, TOS, 1967 Strategem, ENT, 2004 Lower Decks, TNG, 1994 Blood and Fire Part 1, Star Trek: Phase II fan series (formally Star Trek: New Voyages), http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ Inside The Courtroom For SCOTUS Gay Marriage Ruling, USA Today YouTube Channel, accessed 2015 via: http://bit.ly/1KvtV71 Think Tank, VOY, 1999 Photo 1983 Aids March, Mario Suriani, Associated Press, via the New York Historical Society, accessed 2015 via http://bit.ly/1LCKYoG Castro District Protest, photo by Thomas Alleman, 1985, accessed 2015 via: http://huff.to/1OjNd65 Behind the Scenes TNG photos, via Star Trek: The Next Generation 365, accessed via Trekcore.com: http://bit.ly/1YlnqxV Locutus Of Borg Sketch, Rick Sterback, 1990 David Gerrold Portrait, Paramount Pictures and/or CBS Studios Star Trek Creators, Paramount and/or CBS Studios, accessed via Trekcore.com TNG Season 4 Press Kit image, Paramount Pictures and/or CBS Studios, accessed 2015 via Trekcore.com Herbert Wright, Fabbri Publishing, Star Trek: The Magazine, Vol. 1, Issue 11, accessed 2015 via http://bit.ly/1F9BW5T TNG Season 4 Press Kit image, Paramount Pictures and/or CBS Studios, accessed 2015 via Trekcore.com Ronald D. Moore, Paramount Pictures and/or CBS Studios Brannon Braga, Paramount Pictures and/or CBS Studios Depiction of Cahokia, Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site Mural Slaves on a Carolina Plantation, anonymous, late 1700s The Cycle of Terror And Tragedy, by Graydon Parrish, 2002 (?) Music Drive Away, by MK2, YouTube Audio Library Alright, by Silent Partner, YouTube Audio Library Jay Dee 13, by J Dilla, The King Of Beats, 2015 Get It Together (Instrumental), by Soni WithanEye, 2013 Jay Dee 7, by J Dilla, The King Of Beats, 2015 Detroit Madness (Instrumental) by J Dilla, Rebirth Of Detroit Instrumentals, 2014 Websites / Sources Reddit Comment: http://bit.ly/1TsgPhU Why Star Trek: Voyager Meant The World To Me, by Katharine Trendacosta: http://bit.ly/1yqreSL
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These stories come from Hollywood in regards to 2% of the population. Hollywood does not respresent the vast majority of America or the world. Hollywood is a big bubble of gay writers. Too much LGBT agenda overwhelming the needs of the many.
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One would hope the future will not be plagued by this mental illness
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Is it necessary? No, i don't think so, but it would certainly be welcomed.
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We do need to remember that while Uhura was on the bridge, her job was to answer the space phone. She didn't even bother to learn Klingon herself, resorting to a dictionary when she couldn't use the translator.
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That first clip is from the single worst episode of TNG.
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Answering your last question I would say no. BUT:
I was always fascinated by how "normal" people of different ethnics or races worked together. A russian, an american stereotype and a black woman working together in the late 60s / early 70s was huge deal. Although I never had the feeling that the ethnic difference was actually topic of the adventures. For me it was always Star Treks way to show how little these differences actually matter. I think Star Trek should show lesbians and gays more but it shouldn't be the prime topic of any episode. Because in the end it shouldn't matter at all. -
This video is clearly very skewed, I was expecting a video about gay characters in the trek verse and it's implications as it pertains to the show, how the viewing audience reacted but was I saw was an advertisement for homosexuality touting it's virtues along with bashing ST for not pushing homosexuality.
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Something I love about Star Trek is that it always seems to address issues society seems to fight against.
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I'd like to see Transgendered cewmen, and how they go through transition in the 24th Century. Forget the sex, and the dresses, and whatever some of you who seem to be Transphobes fear will tarnish Star Trek's squeaky clean White only story lines. This is about the future, and for one thing....NOT one of you so-called Trekkers who fear the unknown have any right to call Trek your own personal piece of the pie. Trek is a public conversation, and it is also a melting pot of ideas, cultures, and races....
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Why do the trill looks so different between tng and ds9?
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The Outcast was a sellout.
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What possible battles do gay people need to win in the west now that they can legally marry? They have the same rights as everyone else?
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Excellent production and very informative. It is noticeable, by their absence, that major TV and film productions are still very uncomfortable about portraying Gay relationships but are very much ok with featuring Lesbian ones i.e. the new Supergirl series and her sisters Alex Danvers recent coming out. Is this because Lesbian relationships have always been more excepted by society while Gay relationships are considered immoral, offensive and dirty.
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Despite all that's said in the video, the fact remains that they absolutely avoided homosexuality completely. You can claim that this episode or that storyline was kinda sorta somewhat related to homosexuality... maybe, if you cocked your head to the side and squinted. But they never had gay characters. Ever. They never had gay romances. Ever. They never had anything clear and blatantly gay, just outlandish alien situations.
Roddenberry gave us the first interracial kiss and a black female as an officer.... Paramount completely and utterly ignored us.
What I've found over the years is that for all the claims of open mindedness from the sci fi/ fantasy/ video games/ RPGs/ comics/ anime and all the rest of the "geek" community, there's a shit ton of homophobia amongst us. Sometimes it seems to be even greater than the public at large. Beamdog recently released the game Siege of Dragonspear, a new game in the Baldur's Gate series, only to be deluged in complaints from gamers because they dared to have a trans character in it, and how disgusting was that? I read countless comments from "fellow" gamers bitching about how they were so offended by it they planned on stealing the game, killing the character, and complaining everywhere about the game.
I see people in the comments here essentially saying LGBTs are only okay if they're not too brazen about it. So long as they're kept in the background and "know their place", they'll be okay. Because having a million stories of heteros is perfectly fine, but a SINGLE story about a gay or trans is "shoving things in people's faces".
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The Trek novels seem to pick up the slack of the TV series. There have been several gay and lesbian couples in the various Star Trek novels, but the TV show is a different animal. TV studios and Broadcasters are heavily concerned with keeping Nielsen ratings high, which often leads to paranoia about what gets put into the show. If I remember correctly, Modern Family had an openly gay couple, but it took them several seasons before they even kissed on screen, and even then, they were kissing in the background.
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Like some others here, I also would have to disagree with your final segment. Star Trek is all about celebrating individualism, and claiming that art "should" be portrayed in a certain way is antithetical to individualism.
I think representation is great, and I'm certainly unopposed to the notion that Star Trek would explore these topics further, however I would not like the producers to explore these topics for the sole reason that they have the notion that they are obliged to do so. For me, it is far more appropriate to support an idea rather than demand it be implemented by others. -
I think if they do another series, they should, but not as a big issue but rather as a background to a character where it logically makes sense. The creator, Gene, was very upset that he couldn't tackle the issue, George Takei said he was a good friend and felt bad he couldn't be help.
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WTF Trekspertise ????? non of this episodes dont have anything to do with gays. Gay population are sick people ,demented which has nothing to do with star trek. Everything you sad is out of context .
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I honestly don't think that many people in the 20th century identified as gay, bi, etc. It has largely been media in the past 20ish years pushing people towards accepting that a few stray thoughts suddenly must equate to their entire identity and that they were born that way. This new Trek is just a continuation of that agenda, rather than representing anything that would truly advance us in any discernable way. They've got their priorities wrong and the story is going to suffer for it. Star Trek may as well call it quits at this point because it's become a parody of itself.
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Hold up. Did you just let Beverly off the hook for blaming all of humanity for her own personal failing?
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