The Earth's Orbit Is Helical Not Circular/Elliptical
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The Earth's Orbit Is Helical Not Circular/Elliptical http://dcsymbols.com/future/sunspath001.jpg The model used in this videos is simply WRONG. The helical model - our solar system is a vortex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU A rebuttal to the above video called No, Our Solar System is NOT a "Vortex" http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html "Look at the video again: Sadhu shows the Sun leading the planets, ahead of them as it goes around the galaxy (he makes this even more obvious in a second video; see below). This is not just misleading, it's completely wrong. Sometimes the planets really are ahead of the Sun as we orbit in the Milky Way, and sometimes trail behind it (depending on where they are in their orbit around the Sun)."
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The earth does not revolve around the sun. The earth is a fixed, flat plane. You have been duped my friend.
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Great video! The vortex needs to be eliptical to allow for the seasons, and what people persieve to be the tilt on the Earth. Is there an explanation on how/why electrical currents move this way?
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In Earth's elliptical movement, the sun at its nearest should be bigger and hotter. Anybody for answers ? Or is the fast movement at this point makes it less hot ?
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So the Autumn equinoxe is when we are farthest ahead of the Sun ?
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OK, I feel that you are missing the point. Most school age humans are NEVER informed that the Sun and it's orbiting Planets follow a vector of ANY KIND. So to arrive after the fact is revealed and then explain why the initial revelation is not precise completely misses the point. Common sense is also a requirement for initiation. Great video by the way!
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Thanks your video!
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It is just a matter of reference frame.
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"This video is true, but also pointless." Ah the wisdom of the Utuber with no videos. Thank you so much for your contribution here :-)
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"I didn't mean what people perceive I meant what they portray" You are, then, repeating what I am saying in the video, that people do not portray that correctly. THAT Is the point of my video exactly.
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"we are never on the far side of the sun." Squeeze me? What are you talking about?? "there is not 1 photo that exists of the sun obscuring another planet as it were to pass in front of it." How can you photograph what is being blocked? That makes no sense. Your theory is WRONG. Your discussion is 2 much 4 me. Where did you study astronomy?
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@dcsymbols, Thanks for the video. I try to tell people specifically, that we are never on the far side of the sun. I believe in this theory, is there any way to prove it to non believers. I have tried to tell them that there is not 1 photo that exists of the sun obscuring another planet as it were to pass in front of it. Is there a better way to visually prove my point, as the discussion is 2 much for some? Thank you for your time.
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"Where did you get the idea of an average?" I remember a homework assignment where we had to do some algebra adjustments to get r^2 on one side of the equation, which is easy. I've been trying to find the assignment but to no avail. I'm pretty sure it was the moon's distance from Earth and Force given. I guess I'm really asking is why is there a formula for something that changes constantly? Why is the distance changing? Is it because Gravity isn't so strong?
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"Newton's Third Law and F=Gmm/r^2 ...So what does the formula represent, the average distance?"? The formula represents that F is the force due to the gravitational attraction between the two objects. R is the distance between the two objects. That formula shows that F varies as a function of the square of the distance. It is NOT an average, but an instantaneous consideration. As the distance changes, the force between the bodies changes too. Where did you get the idea of an average?
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"the orbital distance formula... the distance between two bodies isn't the same at all times" I believe that you are confusing the chapter on Kepler with the chapter on Newton. Do a web search for 'Kepler's laws of planetary motion', and notice the ellipse in the 'equal area under the curve' section. Orbiting bodies orbit parent bodies in an elliptical motion. The parent body is at one of the foci of the ellipse. That yiels a 'non-regular' helix motion, as I pointed out.
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To be more specific I'm referring to Newton's Third Law and F=Gmm/r^2
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"I was never taught about it in college physics; celestial mechanics." I'm taking Basic Conceptual Physics now and am curious about the orbital distance formula. After watching this it's obvious the distance between two bodies isn't the same at all times. So what does the formula represent, the average distance?
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"How can you tell what people don't visualize? Just curious" Because they make videos showing circular orbits and planets following the sun as if they are tied on behind, I didn't mean what people perceive I meant what they portray
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"The HS I went to has had astronomy for a long time, it has a nice little planetarium too." I was in shock when we moved to Alabama from Florida in the middle of my 9th grade year. I had to go to the high school half the day to take my second year Latin class and my plane geometry. I basically lost a year compared to where I had been if I had stayed in Fla. And i was in a NASA city too.
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"the image, the one at 7:09 or so, is the one that eventually jogged my memory." That image comes from a mid 1970's "Scientific American" article written by Dr. James van Allen. I can send you a link to a larger copy of that on my web site, if you PM me about that. "I seem to mix up the term important with what is interesting to me sometimes." That is what I was alluding to with my comment. A lot of what people present on Utube is interesting but not very important.
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Of course I still didn't answer the question, yes I took astronomy in high school :)
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