Sir Roger Penrose — The quantum nature of consciousness
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Sir Roger Penrose. Quantum Consciousness Theorist — Co-creator of the Orch OR model of the quantum nature of consciousness and memory. http://GF2045.com/speakers/ Knighted in 1994 for his contributions to science, Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS, is an English mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher. The extraordinary scope of his work ranges from quantum physics and theories of human consciousness to relativity theory and observations on the structure of the universe. Penrose is internationally renowned for his scientific work in mathematical physics, in particular for his contributions to general relativity and cosmology. His primary interest is in a field of geometry called tesselation, the covering of surfaces with tiles of different shapes. Among numerous prizes and awards, he received the 1988 Wolf Prize for physics, which he shared with Stephen Hawking for their contribution to our understanding of the universe. He is the Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics at the Mathematical Institute of the University of Oxford, as well as an Emeritus Fellow of Wadham College. "There is a current view that consciousness is something which arises from some complicated computation. So we have our computers, and people think that because they can do things amazingly fast, and they can calculate very quickly, and they can play chess extremely well, that they are superior to us even, and it is only some complicated aspect of this computational activity that somehow consciousness arises from that. Now my view is quite different from this. I think there is a lot of computational activity going on in the brain, but this is basically unconscious. So consciousness seems to me to be something quite different." For more information about the GF2045 congress, please visit http://www.GF2045.com
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penrose is a great mind however, this stuff is still speculative at best. currently they are mapping the brain functions using mri not at the neuron level rather by area and pathways between them. give brain mapping 10 years with advances in technology, then you can start formulating theories based on evidence. not hey consciousness is spooky and quantum mechanics are spooky hey... they must be related and try and reverse engineer the two. is quantum mechanics involved with functions in the body and brain and everywhere.... of course quantum mechanics is part of the natural world it is not magic. just because we do not fully understand it does not make it magic.
now, consider the great strides and new understandings that have come from the genome mapping. we have had philosophy of he mind for 2500 years and little progress has been made since the early thinkers because it has all been subjective. -
Why is the Schrodinger equation and the making of a measurement incompatible?
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worth watching.
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comb over
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today's scientist spiritually are like a babes playing in sand box! And then they come up with a revelation...
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Sir Penrose disgraced himself by mixing neuroscience, quantum mechanics and consciousness.. he obviously has no clue about cells - microtubules are present in all cells, not only neurons, and have as little to do with consciousness as membranes, mitochondria or any other parts of cells. The point that all those people who don't understand how brain gives rise to consciousness are missing is that consciousness is not within cells and cells are not conscious. it's their arrangement/connections and the process of interaction that creates the flow of information that is consciousness. just like transistors in the processor are not smart, the processor is not smart, but the software that runs on it can be quite smart and will eventually be smarter than people. it's not about microtubules or silicone - it's about signals and their flow and processing.
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1:39 - ah, I've finally found a scientifically-backed source for this intuition.
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My understanding of quantum physics is that the overriding and defining ~ we reap what we sow ~ meaning. Is embedded in intent!
Once you move towards the quantum experience, your intention is relayed into the quantum field before you even get there.
What this does, is, it either limits your progress as a civilization or it increases the potential for further exploration of the field!
It is like a maze with doors opening and closing. So for example, if you enter the quantum field which has registered your intention to be greed. Only certain doors will open to you which will ultimately lead to your demise.
There is no passing through the quantum field to a higher paradigm if your papraxis is filled of negative content ~
You may understand the meaning of this by understanding the meaning and function of the karmic laws.
Sooner or later you will find this, scientifically to be true!
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It is the common Universe , dimension, and human emotion
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CONSCIOUSNESS is an electrochemical function of the nervous system. Insert a new chemical into the brain and CONSCIOUSNESS changes radically.
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Have you ever experienced anything other than life? You haven’t, because you cannot experience anything else; anything you experience is life. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, and consciousness cannot be created or destroyed for the same reason. It changes form. Google truthcontest click on the earth icon and read the Present. It explains for the 1st time ever the big picture of life in every facet, it explains how life works it will set you free.
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The problem with consciousness science, whether on the particle level or the biological microtubules level is that it's still monistic measuring matter and energy - CONSCIOUSNESS IS SPIRIT/MIND NOT BRAIN, the part of us that comes from God, not bioelectrical, quantum mechanics or any other kind of brain activity. The fact that you need to search for materialistic evidence in the first place is tantamount to an oxymoron, light on the oxy and heavy on the moron. When it comes to consciousness, science and scientists are stuck on and in the brain and that makes them downright stupid.
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Everything about consciousness is biological and resides only in the brain of humans & animals. Conscious awareness is clearly visible in brain-mapping technology. There are gaps in our understanding for sure, I'm surprised that Sir Roger is falling for the age-old solution of filling those gaps with wild and untestable conjecture
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I find it crazy how people seem to reject this theory which has some scientific backing, yet provide no materialist evidence of their own as to a theory of the emergence of consciousness. I mean I don't want to get Sam Parnia involved but him and Peter Fenwick have also done studies on NDE's that subtly prove some form of mind body dualism. I am a skepic and agnostic, but I find property dualism and mind body dualism to be plausible.
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Truth as a static structure vs a dynamic system. To simplify, think of a
stack of copy paper with one word on each page. In time, we see each
page one at a time, outside of time all of the words, on all of the
pages combine to make a single word. This single word is truth, it is
the entire story, told in an instant of time. The fractal version of
this story has another feature. As each page is presented to us, our
intent creates a slightly new meaning that branches out, changing the
story, an effect that turns the stack into a tree like structure.
The direction of time's arrow is the breaking of the symmetry of the
potential of the boundary condition. In other words, if I toss a coin
and it has perfect symmetry of potential it will land heads half the
time and tails half the time. The symmetry of the potential is broken if
the coin tosses are not 50/50. In a perfectly random system, after a
sufficient number of tosses, the symmetry for all even number tosses
would always be 50/50. Coin tosses are a lot like squaring the circle.
You get closer and closer to the true value but you never reach it, like
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he's missing his own point. Where is the spontaneity coming from Roger? Potential cannot produce results. The energy comes from the consciousness. We literally are God - The God. The illusion of the self as a possession of a monkey brain is causing confusion. And then there was light.
[ LSD helps to instigate an epiphany. Take a large dose of acid (don't mess around here people I'm talking 4+ tabs) and look in the mirror (if you can!). You will realise that The Consciousness doesn't own the piece of biology reflected back into that eye. We are oneness. Ego death is a prerequisite to decent discussions on this topic as far as I'm concerned. This stuff has been available for like 50 years now people - no excuses. I really can't recommend this drug enough; it's game changing.
Do it alone, lock the door, have a large bottle of water (with electrolytes and vitamin c) and turn off your phone. ] -
Within the body every cell/molecule has evolved to live, as a matter of Life and death..evolved to a certain absolute perfection/ vibration... this pre materialises microtubules and to behave at the quantum level to become the subconscious and our individual consciousness of our own creation...Not sure about the super position or the collapse as per Stuart Hameroff but its all so Orch OR an interesting collaboration...
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please, how to collapse quantum probability into macroscopic reality?
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