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A team working with the Sloan Digital Sky Survey has announced that a so-called distant quasar has mysteriously dimmed in a shockingly short period of time, not over millions of years as required by theory but only 12 years after its discovery. The best explanation the team can offer is that “the quasar has used up all the glowing-hot gas in its immediate vicinity, leading to a rapid drop in brightness.” Dr Halton Arp provided a different explanation for Quasars in his seminal book on the subject. In this Space News, Dr. Donald Scott elaborates on Arp’s groundbreaking thesis. TPOD: The Universe According to Arp http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050106universe-arp.htm Electric Sky: https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/resources/the-electric-sky-preview/ Note: All illustrations are artist renditions of Quasars. JOIN US ON PATREON AND WATCH OUR INFLUENCE GROW: “Changing the world through understanding of the Electric Universe." https://www.patreon.com/user?u=180095&ty=p Subscribe to Thunderbolts Update newsletter: http://eepurl.com/ETy41 The Thunderbolts Project Home: http://www.thunderbolts.info Essential Guide to the Electric Universe: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/eg-contents/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thunderboltsproject Twitter: @tboltsproject Electric Universe by Wal Thornhill: http://www.holoscience.com/wp/ Electric Universe T-shirts and Gifts: http://www.thunder-stuff.com The ideas expressed in videos presented on The Thunderbolts Project YouTube Channel do not necessarily express the views of T-Bolts Group Inc or The Thunderbolts Project(TM).
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Dr. Scott here shows that the work of Dr Halton (Chip) Arp was correct and the fact that he was fired because what he found did not agree with the big bang theory. Shame on mainstream astronomy for the way Dr. Arp was treated.
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From what I know about Dr Arp's work what he observed was repeatable and statistically in the millions to one of being an accident. What these scientists have observed will not be an isolated incident. Is anyone looking for more quasars that have undergone this rapid change and now appear to be galaxies?
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http://phys.org/news/2016-01-quiet-quasar-apparently-eaten.html
Quiet quasar has apparently eaten its fill
January 8, 2016
Astronomers with the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) announced that a distant quasar ran out of gas.
Their conclusions, reported Jan. 8 at the American Astronomical Society
meeting in Kissimmee, Florida, clarify why quasar SDSS J1011+5442
changed so dramatically in the handful of years between observations.
The SDSS measured another spectrum for this quasar in early 2015, and noticed a huge decrease between 2003 and 2015. The team made use of additional observations by other telescopes over those 12 years to narrow down the period of change.
"The difference was stunning and unprecedented," said UW astronomy graduate student John Ruan, a member of the research team. "The hydrogen-alpha emission dropped by a factor of 50 in less than 12 years, and the quasar now looks like a normal galaxy."
>>They even rule out some of the dumb ad-hoc solutions researchers proposed in the past :
A thick layer of dust could have passed through the host galaxy, obscuring their view of the black hole at its center. But, they concluded that there is no way that any dust cloud could have moved fast enough to cause a 50-fold drop in brightness in just two years. Another possibility is that the bright quasar in 2003 was just a temporary flare caused by the black hole ripping apart a nearby star. While this possibility has been invoked in similar cases, it cannot to explain the fact that the changing-look quasar had been shining for many years before it turned off. -
Reported as dimming, what was actually observed was a change in the red shift amount. Cause of red shift can not then be space stretch or Doppler. I predicted red shift change due to change in light path to observer. Proximity of space debris to light path affects red shift amount..
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So, I don't get it: Is Donald Scott reading the title to a different press release from the one shown, or was its title changed, or did he get the title wrong? It's still interesting that they're saying it's "shutting off" -- a lot of underlying (and unexamined) assumptions there! If he's referencing another release -- whose title I put into Google and to which I found no exact match -- could the +ThunderboltsProject please place a link to it (or if it's just in print, some kind of identifying information) into the Description?
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What if electricity is just what an object gives off, instead what if the universe could be made of anything and constantly changing. I believe it would take Enternity to learn the exact make-up of the universe. As I believe it is infinite, electric universe is not bad and it can't and will never fully grasp the complete and infinite make-up of the Universe and beyond.
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Another great video ThunderBolts!
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so the quasar, dimmed and now it looks like a galaxy ... But did the red shift change as well ?
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Hi. Has the dimmed quasars redshift been remeasured to check for any change? Im sure Halton would have done this if he were with us today!..
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Fantásticas imagens...e teorias...bem haja...
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Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Back to the drawing board is the mantra of traditional science.
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That is a great book from H Arp get it through Amazon it is cheap, quite scientific but the concepts can be grasped easily enough
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Asseveration is an facet of revolutionary break through and discoveries, mostly holding sway towards that which coincides with, and have malleable implications to the socially acceptable, scientific cornerstones.
Our entire understanding of our existence lay not in the root of substantiation, but at the full benediction of monumentally vested interest, to maintain an overwhelming ascendancy, in the apportionment of life which is paramount to human maturation. No significant revelation shall come about, nor any scientific achievements that violate or infringe on the prevailing paradigm will be acknowledged, only incremented advancements of technology, that perpetuate the current ideological geopolitical- macroeconomic agenda will bear tenacity.
Exclusive but unopened as it be, only the unveiling of the true nature of our reality, can man break free from its prison of dogmatized beliefs, and shift its impending coarse of retrogression.
I do joy in the connotations of reinspecting our origins without prejudice, open minds, and a salacity for truth, but coexisting with despair knowing that lay greater powers whose inclination is towards the antithesis of everything that i just wrote, so with that conveyed it should be perfectly understood that with every great discovery will be an even more monumental cover up. The further we deny truth, the farther from perfection we become. -
It's depressing that our "modern" society hasn't advanced more than this. All the bragging we do in west about our advanced countries and their science and this is how true scientists like Dr Halton Arp are treated. This is how true science is buried and we are fed with some pseudoscience version.
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Amazing!
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This makes sense, I love the Electric Universe!
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as always you all produce top notch science. Thank you. Semper Fi
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if Arp isn't avenged, his spirit can't reach the halls of Valhalla. Seriously I think it's B.S. that he isn't well known or accredited for his accomplishments.
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