Our Geocentric Universe points to God
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Just ask yourself, which came first, the Earth, or the Heavens (Sky and Cosmos)? We all know what the secular scientists would have us believe. They say the Big Bang happed, then our Milky Way, then our Sun, then the Earth. But, how does the bible go again? Oh yeah, the Earth and Heaven, then the Heavens (the two Firmaments). In the Beginning there was the Earth, and the Heaven of the Heavens. The rest was developed later in the creation week. Science has been confused for about 400 years, but the issue is clearly observable now and verified from multiple sources of experimentation. Have a look at this article from Cornell University's arXive.org before you slush this important notion off: http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.4134v1 Here is an older article talking about this stuff: http://arxiv.org/vc/astro-ph/papers/0703/0703325v1.pdf Here is the abstract of that article if you want a preview here and now: Is there a violation of the Copernican principle in radio sky? Ashok K. Singal (Submitted on 17 May 2013) Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) observations from the WMAP satellite have shown some unexpected anisotropies, which surprisingly seem to be aligned with the ecliptic\cite {20,16,15}. The latest data from the Planck satellite have confirmed the presence of these anisotropies\cite {17}. Here we report even larger anisotropies in the sky distributions of powerful extended quasars and some other sub-classes of radio galaxies in the 3CRR catalogue, one of the oldest and most intensively studies sample of strong radio sources\cite{21,22,3}. The anisotropies lie about a plane passing through the two equinoxes and the north celestial pole (NCP). We can rule out at a 99.995% confidence level the hypothesis that these asymmetries are merely due to statistical fluctuations. Further, even the distribution of observed radio sizes of quasars and radio galaxies show large systematic differences between these two sky regions. The redshift distribution appear to be very similar in both regions of sky for all sources, which rules out any local effects to be the cause of these anomalies. Two pertinent questions then arise. First, why should there be such large anisotropies present in the sky distribution of some of the most distant discrete sources implying inhomogeneities in the universe at very large scales (covering a fraction of the universe)? What is intriguing even further is why such anisotropies should lie about a great circle decided purely by the orientation of earth's rotation axis and/or the axis of its revolution around the sun? It looks as if these axes have a preferential placement in the larger scheme of things, implying an apparent breakdown of the Copernican principle or its more generalization, cosmological principle, upon which all modern cosmological theories are based upon. Here is the direct link to the pdf file: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.4134v1 Here is a program I made that illustrates the type of geocentric model that I subscribe to. A model that has the Earth at the centre, with the Moon and the Sun going around it, but all the other planets orbit around the Sun. It is the tychonian geocentric system named after Tycho Brahe in the late 16th century. http://1080plus.com/Geocentric.2D For those that don't know, the guy speaking in the video is Robert Sungenis. He does talks about how modern science is proving that Galileo was wrong after all. He is fairly smart man overall in my opinion. He has also made a movie questioning the Copernican principle called The Principle. I haven't seen it, but it looks good from what I get from interviews and their website. http://ThePrincipleMovie.com For those that are reading this and don't know this, The Copernican principle assumes that neither the Sun nor the Earth are in a central, specially favoured position in the universe. Watch this at my 1080plus website: http://1080plus.com/KrJNbVIEFKs.video
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God is an evil cunt! Think about it? Why would god sit back and watch children suffer and die of cancer, not to mention the atrocities of war. God should be put on trial on the charge of crimes against humanity.
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Earth orbits the sun, and spins which is why we can see things 'rotating around us'. This guy is thinking back in the dark ages.
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mumbo jumbo
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Understanding gravity will only happen when science wakes up to the fact that the earth is flat and no one can prove we live on a globe. If you are unclear on that try measure the curvature.
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Bammbamm12: The fact is that the stars are in the same configuration since the mankind has recorded the celestial rotation around the Earth.
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So of course, since you have looked into this you have some mathematics to prove it all with? Or is it as usual just misrepresentation of what the actual science is?
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The smarminess adds so much. This is one of my favorite videos in the world. Oh, god, it just keeps getting better.
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TRY THE ANNUNAKI...WHAT A PACK OF SCHMUCKS
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The real issue is that the structure of the universe aligns with the earth's rotation around the sun AND the tilt of the earth's axis. These are the facts. More data reveals that above the ecliptic and below it galaxies have rotations in opposite directions, as though space is rotating around the earth. Objectively, Earth looks special. It is in fact unique. There are metaphysical implications to this much like the Syfy series Stargate Galaxy presents the subtle signature that was hidden in the background of the universe. It is very exciting and ought not to be minimized since sooner or later, atheist or not, you'll have to accept the science anyway.
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Tragic. More religious crapola.
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In Quran 1400 years back in Surah Ya-Seen verse 37 - 40:
And a sign for them is the night, We draw off the day therefrom, hence they are in darkness.
And the sun runs to its appointed resting-place. This is the commandment of the Dominant, the Knowing.
And We have appointed stages for the moon till it becomes again like an old branch of palm tree.
It is not for the sun that it might catch the moon and nor the night may supercede the day. And each one isfloating in an orbit.
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I am a Muslim and I wrote this poem being on my Faith on One God, Prophet Muhammad ( pbuh ) the last messenger after the Prophet Jesus ( pbuh).
If any body doesn't like this no problem but an healthy and positive discussion with respect should continue...Thank You all:
Earth is the centre of the whole universe......
Like Kaaba is the centre of earth...
Gabriel( Angel )came all the way from heavens...
Destination was heart of Mohammad (pbuh) on earth...
For the mercy of all the universes...
Mohammad ( pbuh )was sent by Lord to earth....
Quran tells the ascension of Mohammad( pbuh )to Heavens......
Multiple speeds of light( Buraq) took him to heavens from earth.......
Whole universe is calm,praising the Almighty.......
Believers & Nonbelievers arguing on the earth..... -
Complete idiocy.
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It amazes me having looked into Lawrence Krauss, that he is taken seriously. The only "logic" I can see to why he is taken seriously is because atheists need a foolish leader to lead the foolish atheists. Krauss has taken his degree as if that is his license to believe and teach in the absurd with absolutely no proof except for, he says so, therefore it is. And unless you agree with his absurdities that are totally unfounded, you are wrong, period. This is pretty much the norm in degrees; they have the degree which is their license to say whatever they want to make up, no matter how unfounded. That is why these same people say that you must basically give up your common sense for science. It's OK to accept counterintuitive.
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When we are collecting data it is naturally arranged so that the data is centered around the collector of data. No matter where the observer is in the universe, the data will look arranged around the observer. We could be on the opposite side of the universe and the data would look centered on us because we are collecting the data where we are. Not such a hard concept. Or are you having problems with it? Maybe this will help. A photographer will take a panoramic photo and it will look like he is the center. ??? I don't think the idea of a geocentric universe is a problem with most scientist. I think the problem that most scientists are having with what you are saying is that you can't argue with people who can really misunderstand the situation so much. So let us restate it in another way. If we take these measurements on Earth... Earth will be the center because the data is measured FROM Earth. If the measurements were taken on Pluto, Pluto would be the center because the data is measured FROM Pluto. If the measurements were taken on a planet in the Andromeda Galaxy, that planet would be the center because the data is measured FROM that planet in the Andromeda Galaxy. I would feel stupid if I were you.
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Revelation 21 . The Reason God has made The Earth in its location is because He says He will dwell on the New Earth which he shall make in the Presence of Those that Believed in Jesus as the Son of God who brought Salvation to the World which He Jesus created ,paying the price for our sins with His life. God doesn't lie that would be his adversary Satan that one who deceives God's creatures . Don't fret Because God will demonstrate to the unbelievers that he is Real and that the unbelieving creatures can not Not participate when He the Creator brings you back from the dead to show and tell you . I don't think He will need to use a mathematical formula to get His existence across to you as you are present before him . Don't worry you will be in the midst of like minded people by the Billions . Today it is still possible to change your Mind and choose Life and not permanent death . God is Just and Merciful when you Live By faith and He is also Just and Merciful if you choose not to live by the faith of His Son Jesus . In his Mercy God will be Just and Merciful to put you to Death you will not languish for eternity as some groups teach . In this second creation of the new Heavens and the New earth all the saints will for the First Time Be a witness to the new Creation unlike the first time Adam & Eve were not witnesses . God will Speak everything into existence and promises it will be even better than the first. If you are an unbeliever and want to know Jesus I would learn from This lecture series .click on total onslaught or other links of interest .http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/vod/
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Basically this is a movie that interviewed various atheist scientists about evidence that might or might now disprove something scientific (fair enough) and then is used by a bunch of Christian Fanatics to misquote them and make them sound like they agree with theists on the "concrete" fact that this incredible perfection must be the work of an imaginary being.
A word of advice: Perfection is a human conception. It doesn't exist out there in the universe. It is a product of a psycho-analytical brain whose cognitive function is to find patterns in order to make sense of the surrounding world. So where the brain perceives what may seem like impossible patterns its automatic reaction is to believe that (like ourselves) the universe must have a natural function and must be inhabited by a living force to account for those functions OR (like our accomplishments) must be the product of a highly intelligent designer. This type of thinking is (besides delusional) simply ignorance and incapability, its a coping mechanism, like when you hit your toe on a door and you shout at the door as if it had any life in itself. A type of thinking that philosophy has ever tried to root out of the human condition. A type of thinking that should be abandoned along with all religious doctrines that tamper with this coping mechanism.
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