Elon Musk’s SpaceX Mars Colonization Plan Reviewed By Dr. Robert Zubrin - Next Level Life Ep. 17
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Thanks for watching the Next Level Life: I Love Mars Edition! Be sure to click the thumbs up and subscribe for future video updates! Bill Hargenrader, bestselling author of the Mars Journey series, interviews Dr. Robet Zubrin, an American aerospace engineer and author of The Case for Mars, best known for his advocacy of the manned exploration. Dr. Zubrin discusses: -His take on the Elon Musk’s SpaceX Mars colonization plan -Ways he would improve the mission -Describes Mars Direct and Mars Semi Direct -Talks about the big takeaways from the Mars Society Convention 2016 -Talks the next steps for our path to Mars Dr. Zubrin was the driving force behind Mars Direct, a proposal intended to produce significant reductions in the cost and complexity of such a mission. The key idea was to use the Martian atmosphere to produce oxygen, water, and rocket propellant for the surface stay and return journey. He is the President of the Mars Society and Pioneer Astronautics and Pioneer Energy. He has developed a number of concepts for space propulsion and exploration, and is the author of over 200 technical and non-technical papers and five books. Find out more at http://marssociety.org Listen to the podcast at http://radio.marssociety.org About the Host: Connect and follow the host, Bill Hargenrader here: http://Twitter.com/billhargenrader / @billhargenrader http://facebook.com/billhargenrader http://facebook.com/ilovemarsfans http://ilovemars.info Empowering Entrepreneurs, Improving Lives: http://nextlevellife.net
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The power that cat possesses is awesome! Zubrin = The Cat from Outer Space
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i dont understand this. i wouldnt put a huge life support system on the ship. the best way would be to put the astronauts in a koma state and awake them when arriving in mars. that would save huge amounts of weight. you wouldnt need much food or water on the ship. the oxygen intake would be minimal. and putting people to sleep in an artificial koma is beeing done on earth for decades and is safe. its obvious to do it that way. it would solve the radiation problem too, because you could insulate the sleeping chambers against radiation easyly. you could use the fluids the astronauts need sourounding the astronauts in the sleeping chamber. so there wouldnt be extra weight. what do you think of this idear? plz write comments...
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It's pretty nuts to try to colonize Mars now or in the near future. Maybe 200 yrs from now. There are so many better things to do in space and astronomy, this would be just a waste of money and people will get killed too.
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Question for Dr. Zubrin. Now that Trump has won and with Zubrins renown disdain for the man, would he be willing to work with the president if given the chance or will he let his personal political beliefs get in the way. As that would be sad if so. Trump would be a president willing to listen to someone like Zubrin.
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I wonder if Elon watches this and goes "well Robert if only you had a rocket company you could do it your way"
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Robert needs to have dinner with Elon.
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I feel like a doctor was using a logical fallacy and justification for the idea that there are no pathogens on the surface of Mars just because it's hard for us to find a biological equivalent on Earth for life to develop pathogens in the environment of Mars's surface doesn't mean that Mars's surface doesn't have such pathogens
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the elite already have bases on mars and the moon they dont want the plebs there
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I could never watch zubrin in high quality! Even if it was at 720p!
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I am all for visiting and exploring Mars, but a self sustained colony is not possible. The red planet does not receive enough sunlight to support life. All the energy needed would have to be brought from Earth.
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Thanks again Dr. Zubrin. I learn so much from your analysis.
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Musk outlines a reasonable transport mechanism to get to Mars, and because it's not Zubrin's plan it's not the right plan. Zubrin should be embracing SpaceX, as they have the highest likelihood hood of funding the transport.
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Musk plan to go to Mars will fail only the super rich will go and when they get there what the fuck will they do? It's a pointless and a huge waste of money. Musk is an idiot he should be spending money here on earth and making life easier with new technologies yet he wants to go off to Mars the dead planet to do fuck all. He can't even get his rockets of the ground without exploding. His tesla cars are a joke and a hazard not even economical and way too expensive. The guy is a elitist with pointless grand plans which will fail. The only good thing he's come up with is hyper loop if it gets off the ground the rest is pointless and expensive shit.
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One of the very healthy aspect of the Spacex plan is the extremely rapid journey to mars which greatly reduces the radiation hazard. Hard to do with Zurbin minimalist plan. Smaller spacecraft with less DeltaV as with Zurbin's aging plan would take 6 months, where Spacex is claiming 30 days. Also he stated that Spacex could not "deliver a 500t spacecraft to orbit, which he can't do" (7:18). This is a very curious stance to take. Throughout the interview, it seems that Zubin whittles down the Spacex plan to model some of his plans that he has been trying to push for some 27 years. Unlike my respected brothers and sisters below, I hope he does not land a job at Spacex.
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Too much ego driven. We dont want to hear YOUR already known super-duper-never-to-hapen plan.
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While the Dr has a lot of excellent points I think he may be underestimating the need to return materials. This entire operation may rely on the ships ability to return precious metals mined while obtaining materials for settlers and fuel. Assume average settler weight of 75 kg x 100 settlers 7500 x 30k + for platinum per kg USD thats room for 225 million worth in a passenger configuration. My guess is not only do those extra engines pay for themselves but they're needed to generate funding for the project as it promises access to off planet mining.
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As Dr. Zubrin points out... The more grand the scheme, the longer it will take to happen, if at all. For the next 10-30 years, I'd much rather stick with the basics of Mars Direct, with maybe the addition of a SpaceHab parked at Mars L1 for the sake of crew sanity during the ride back to Earth (equal in living space to a martian Hab). Talking now about sending 100 people to Mars, launch after launch after launch, is a complete waste of O2. 99% of the first million tons launched to Mars needs to be infrastructure, not thousands of soon-to-be starving colonists. In fact -- long before 1,000,000 people arrive from Earth -- the martian colony will likely refuse to accept any more migrants from Earth. And eventually (given human nature), the whole idea of a "two/planet species" will die away in favor of distrustful Earthlings and Martians -- both happy to see the other wiped out.
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People seem to have glossed over when Elon said that he is just making the transportation system. He is not going to be making the habitat/s. SpaceX will make it possible for nations, or other private companies to get their hardware to mars. He is making the train, not the settlement.
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18:40 Hahahaha, you mean Trump. RIP space budget.
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Isn't the benefit of going to Mars fast the possibility to get the actual ITS back in the same transfer window? The appeal to colonisation as it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there falls apart if you want to bring the rocket back and reuse it, surely.
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