Dr. Jason Lisle | The Secret Code of Creation [Fractals]
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PHILOSOPHY OF NUMBERS In this video, astrophysicist and author, Dr. Jason Lisle, presents a compelling argument for God being the creator of the universe. It's entitled "The Secret Code Of Creation". Dr. Lisle showcases the Mandelbrot set of numbers, their infinitude and complexity, and speaks on the One who could have created such an intricate concept. Dr. Lisle is speaker and author of the following books: 1. The Ultimate Proof of Creation: Resolving the Origins Debate 2. Discerning Truth: Exposing Errors in Evolutionary Arguments 3. The Stargazer's Guide to the Night Sky 4. Taking Back Astronomy: The Heavens Declare Creation 5. Why Genesis Matters
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I'd like to hear this guy talk about "sacred geometry".
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Isn't that interesting? smug smile
Every argument for god presented here is an argument from ignorance. -
What if mathematics itself is the ultimate "god"?
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THAT'S WHAT IT IS. HOW ABOUT THAT.
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Numbers are not the code of creation. The source code that forms our reality is the Torah. So Hebrew letters make up the code and each of these letters has a numerical value.
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Sooo.. since concept of zero, which from what I've gathered is kind of important in mathematics, was originally conceived and given to people by Hindu gods.. Does math prove they do exists?
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I know now what PhD stands for: Pile them high and Deep
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There are no God/s, for why would a so called omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent creator ( God by any name) of all things and the universe would require self-annointed prophets like this guy to reveal itself to humankind in a specific limited language and limited knowledge , then remain mute for centuries....
Why can't his so called God, or at least his self-anointed son use Youtube and modern technologies to reveal a second coming?!
No God created the living. All the living is made of biological cells and due to the fact that all biological cells are the progeny of another cell, this proves that all the living species from the smallest to the most developed like us are related through the process of evolution.
There was no God when this planet was formed, and it took billions of years until some humans quite recently developed the concept out of ignorance to research the unexplained. ( human civilisations originated after the adoption of agriculture , say 10 centuries ago)
Around 95% of what we know and use today wasn't even known or available seventy yrs ago.
Why the son of God never had plumbing nor electricity, never spoke another language besides his own, never visited a foreign country in his lifetime, never knew anything about the Americas, nor Asia, never created anything useful to mankind, and so on...??? -
What a messed up way of deceiving people. As a mathematician, I'm outraged by the degree of ignorance manifested in this "presentation." The main argument I kept hearing was: "Rules of mathematics existed way before humans did." True, but you have to consider, that there isn't a one view approach of mathematics. We have axioms. And yes, in fact we DID create axioms ourselves based on logic and reason - by the secular principles. Let me cite some of them for the mathematical operations +, -, * and / for the set of natural numbers ℕ:
A1: a + 0 = a
A2: a * 1 = a
A3: a + (- a) =0
A4: - (- a) = a
The definition of an axiom is: "The assumption, which immediately becomes the highest law, for we don't prove it." Mathematics has man-asserted fundaments, and you know it. Furthermore, let me mention that you can change the axioms to build a new area of mathematics. That's why logic has different axioms than algebra and so goes for topology. The bottom line is: if you investigate something in an enough detailed way, you'll always find complexity, not because the matter itself is complex, but because we presupposed that we must find complexity. We are the creators of complexity. The common truth is: If you search for complexity in anything, you'll find it. But why? Because the universe is intelligently designed? No, much of the opposite, because we assert the complexity and all our intellectual works are the reflection of our common reasoning. So, you see, mathematics is my love. It's astoundingly beautiful and a bottomless ocean for research. That's why blind assertions of creationists bother me so much. With trying to stick the infinite beauty of mathematics into their dull dogmas and unsupported beliefs, they mock the essence of mathematics itself: neutrality and universality.
To be fair, the one thing secular perspective can't explain is the compatibility of abstract mathematics and properties of the physical universe. The strange thing is, the more you base your mathematical models on logic, the more you describe the physical world with the abstract mathematical equations. This relation remains wholly a mystery. For example, in mathematics 1 + 2 + 3 + ... = - 1/12 as it is a convergent infinite series. This idea has been used many times in quantum mechanics and especially string theory. Why does such a crazy concept apply to the real world? No one knows. I am an agnostic atheist and I'm not afraid to admit that I don't know many things. However, my lack of knowledge isn't a proof for god, it's just the proof of my limited understanding. There is nothing shameful in admitting that you don't know. The shame is to ignore evidence and remain in the mist of arrogance and ignorance forever. -
In fact the Mandelbrot set seems to me more satanic than God-like
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"Mathematics is the study of the relationships between numbers." so basiclly a Doctor in astrophysics isn't able t otell the difference between arithmetics and maths lol? arithmetic
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Creationists are stupid.
Proof: You can't show me one who isn't. -
At 35:05 the assertion that the computer crashes will only apply to a very poorly written program designed by a rank amateur. Any self respecting programmer doesn't use uninitialised/unverified pointers to functions/memory and then do a write or jump/call. Sure the standard maths functions typically run out of steam with 80 or 128 bit floating point, but a crash shouldn't occur. My gripes may seem pedantic but if you want someone knowledgeable to take what you say seriously then you cross your "t's" and dot your "i's"
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Regarding the paint can analogy at 32:30 because the paint has a finite particle/atom size again so CAN paint itself, just not fill in all of the gaps.
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I beg to differ in regard to "an ant could never walk around it" at 32:00, as an ant has a finite step size and as such will step over an infinite No. of the triangles, making it's way around fairly quickly. Also because we "know" the size of an ant (with in reason) we may well be able to judge the scale.
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Great video. You should do a video on prime numbers and Reimann's Hypothesis. And a video on Graham's number. And a video on Zeno's paradox discussing infinity and limits.
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#pin it #baron5231
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Intriguing!
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Dr Lisle Thank you
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I recently had a creationist wander into a completely irrelevant rant about fractals and wondered where he got spoon fed that load of garbage.
Now I know.
Good grief.
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