Deep Space Babylon 59 Ep 8 | "The Passenger" and "War Prayer"
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Captain Logan and Eric discuss the Deep Space Nine episode "The Passenger" and the Babylon 5 episode "War Prayer."
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talk maybe 2 episodes from each series in 1 hour.
they couldn't afford to go to planets in first season -
Excellent reviews on both of those episodes. I think its the first time where I agree entirely with what both of you are saying about the given shows. Keep it up, 133 episodes left until my favorite.
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I believe part of the issue may be consistency there have been some very large gaps between some episodes.
Also can you make a playlist of the episodes so it is easier to find them? It is very difficult to find episodes you may have missed during the week and watch them because you have to cycle through all the videos. -
When you guys get to Babylon 5 season 4 its gonna be interesting. Will you cover the TV movies in correspondence to any recommended viewing order with Babylon 5 seasons 4 and 5?
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I think its best to do shorter videos about episodes that are not that spectacular or significant in the early seasons. It seems that what might be off-putting are the daunting one hour video run times on insignificant episodes and save the significant episodes for the hour long videos.
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The episodes are too long. An hour is a lot to devote to listen to a discussion of barely remembered episodes that have no real bearing on the show as a whole.
Structurally, people who have seen the whole show are probably more interested in hearing analysis about how the episode might relate to larger story arcs. But because a lot of this show is about initial reactions to the show without knowing the longer arcs, most of the discussion is "this relates to something later, but we can't talk about that yet since you don't know."
It's a bit of a catch-22 I suppose, since having both an initial reaction and a decent analysis would require having watched the whole show too, and I guess filming two different segments for one episode months or years apart, which is impractical.
Another problem is that Cap is so down on the first season, so the show is coming off as a B5 is so much better than DS9 discussion, which I know many Trek fans weren't interested in 20 years ago when the shows were first on, and those same fans, including myself, aren't interested in it now. Personally, I'm encouraged by the fact that Eric is picking up on the positive aspects of the show that fans who think DS9 is the best Trek show were picking up on as well.
The Captive Pursuit episode is a prime example of the problem, as Cap dismisses it as merely another lame season 1 episode where it actually has a lot of tie ins ot things that happen later, which can't be discussed given the nature of the show.
All things considered, then, I would think seasons or groups of episodes would be the best solution, or to keep the current format of reacting episode to episode, limit the discussion to 10 minutes per show, so 20 minutes per episode. -
Both series just get better the next couple seasons; it'd be a shame if they stopped now.
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Maybe just have shows talking about your favorite episodes as they come up, it doesn't even have to be the same episode numbers for Bab 5 and DS9. That way the reviews will be more positive and your passion for this project will be more apparent.
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Please continue it's been really interesting so far at least finish the first seasons. I've only started watching B5 in the last few months so I'm fairly new to it so thank you for giving me the impetus to watch it. I'm much more familiar with DS9 but only really from season 4 onwards.
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It gets boring after a while when the guys keep trying to talk about episodes that they don't care about. It is noticeable as they cannot remember facts and divert into weird tangents about minor stuff.
you should just do 15 minutes each when there is nothing interesting to say. -
Part of it may be the first season thing. I wouldn't do a full SEASON at a time, but maybe for the rest of season 1 try doing two or three episodes at a time to get through season 1 faster? The only good episode I can think of for season 1 on DS9 is Duet. That one could hold its own episode, but most of the rest...until you get to season 2 and especially 3 there may not be much to talk about.
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posted link on my fb feed !
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keep going guys the 2nd season on of B5 is so epic cant wait for the sh----s stuff
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I know that my friends who are fans of one of or both of these shows are simply less interested in early episodes. I would just keep plugging on, and you'll get to the ones that you guys both really want to talk about, and that will make even better watching for those who are anticipating the later episodes.
Believe it or not, I love this series, and I haven't seen either show at all. I just didn't know about Bab5 until this series, and I've seen a few Star Trek movies, but none of the shows. It just has yet to hook me, but you guys are actually making me really interested in both shows. So, for me at least, you guys are really making it work, because you're keeping a guy interested who doesn't have any familiarity with either show, and it all still makes sense and is entertaining. -
I know that my friends who are fans of one of or both of these shows are simply less interested in early episodes. I would just keep plugging on, and you'll get to the ones that you guys both really want to talk about, and that will make even better watching for those who are anticipating the later episodes.
Believe it or not, I love this series, and I haven't seen either show at all. I just didn't know about Bab5 until this series, and I've seen a few Star Trek movies, but none of the shows. It just has yet to hook me, but you guys are actually making me really interested in both shows. So, for me at least, you guys are really making it work, because you're keeping a guy interested who doesn't have any familiarity with either show, and it all still makes sense and is entertaining. -
Remember the male symbol is also the symbol for mars....
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I think it's like Cap said, people aren't that intressted in early season stuff. I for one really enjoyed your DS9 discussions in the begining but I'm just waiting for you go get to like you said the "meatier episodes" cus I'm just not all that intressted in season 1. So maby season by season could work, but then you'd loose allot of the in dept discussion, so maby just more episodes per episode. Hower you decide to go forward I hope you contionue.
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I want this show to continue and I think the best way would be to cover season by season but I understand how hard it would be to keep everything straight
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I love this series and hope you guy continue. I don't know anyone who would seat through this, but I'll post it on Facebook and see if there's any bites.
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